Did Jesus(as) Die? Will Jesus(as) Return? – Refuting Rashad Khalifa and Qadianis
Posted by Ebrahim Saifuddin on October 27, 2006
Did Jesus(as) Die? Will Jesus(as) Return? – Refuting Rashad Khalifa and Qadianis
By Ebrahim Saifuddin
The main verses under question regarding the ascension or death of Jesus(as) as alleged by some imposters are 5:117 and 3:55. Muslim as well as imposter translations are as below:
Rashad Khalifa
Thus, GOD said, “O Jesus, I am terminating your life, raising you to Me, and ridding you of the disbelievers. I will exalt those who follow you above those who disbelieve, till the Day of Resurrection. Then to Me is the ultimate destiny of all of you, then I will judge among you regarding your disputes. – [3:55]
“I told them only what You commanded me to say, that: `You shall worship GOD, my Lord and your Lord.’ I was a witness among them for as long as I lived with them. When You terminated my life on earth, You became the Watcher over them. You witness all things. – [5:117]
Qadiani (Ahmadi)
Remember the time when Allah said, ‘O Jesus, I will cause thee to die a natural death and will raise thee to Myself, and will clear thee of the charges of those who disbelieve, and will exalt those who follow thee above those who disbelieve, until the Day of Resurrection; then to Me shall be your return, and I will judge between you concerning that wherein you differ.’ – [3:55]
‘I said nothing to them except that which Thou didst command me – Worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord. And I was a witness over them as long as I remained among them, but since Thou didst cause me to die, Thou, hast been the Watcher over them, and Thou art Witness over all things. – [5:117]
Authentic Translation approved by Muslims (Yusuf Ali)
Behold! Allah said: “O Jesus! I will take thee and raise thee to Myself and clear thee (of the falsehoods) of those who blaspheme; I will make those who follow thee superior to those who reject faith, to the Day of Resurrection: Then shall ye all return unto me, and I will judge between you of the matters wherein ye dispute. – [3:55]
“Never said I to them aught except what Thou didst command me to say, to wit, ‘worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord’; and I was a witness over them whilst I dwelt amongst them; when Thou didst take me up Thou wast the Watcher over them, and Thou art a witness to all things. – [5:117]
The Word under Question
When we take a look at the verses we find that one Arabic word has been translated in 2 different ways. This word is “tawaffa”. Let’s study this word below before explaining the verses in question.
Word: tawaffa
Root Word: waffa
The word “waffa” means “To give someone his due in full, let someone have his full share, pay someone in full, to treat exhaustively, write or speak fully about, set forth or develop in detail, fulfillment, keeping, honoring, carrying out, living up to, redemption, making good, standing by, carrying out.” – [Al-Mawrid, Arabic-English, Page 1240.]
The word “tawaffa” means the act of “taking the self back” (either in sleep or in death as seen in the Quran). And as seen in Al Mawrid Arabic-English, pg 391: To take (receive, get, obtain) one’s due or one’s share in full.
This word has been used to mean both death and sleep in the Quran.
Other Translators Face Problems with this Word
We will now take three more translators and analyze their translation of the verses concerned.
E.H. Palmer
When God said, ‘O Jesus! I will make Thee die and take Thee up again to me and will clear thee of those who misbelieve, and will make those who follow thee above those who misbelieve, at the day of judgment, then to me is your return. I will decide between you concerning that wherein ye disagree. – [3:55]
I never told them save what Thou didst bid me,- “Worship God, my Lord and your Lord,” and I was a witness against them so long as I was amongst them; but when Thou didst take me away to thyself Thou wert the watcher over them, for Thou art witness over all. – [5:117]
Rodwell
Remember when God said, “O Jesus! Verily I will cause thee to die, and will take thee up to myself and deliver thee from those who believe not; and I will place those who follow thee above those who believe not, until the day of resurrection. Then, to me is your return, and wherein ye differ will I decide between you. – [3:55]
“I spake not to them aught but that which thou didst bid me–’Worship God, my Lord and your Lord;’ and I was a witness of their actions while I stayed among them; but since thou hast taken me to Thyself, Thou hast Thyself watched them, and Thou art witness of all things. – [5:117]
Shakir
And when Allah said: O Isa, I am going to terminate the period of your stay (on earth) and cause you to ascend unto Me and purify you of those who disbelieve and make those who follow you above those who disbelieve to the day of resurrection; then to Me shall be your return, so l will decide between you concerning that in which you differed. – [3:55]
I did not say to them aught save what Thou didst enjoin me with: That serve Allah, my Lord and your Lord, and I was a witness of them so long as I was among them, but when Thou didst cause me to die, Thou wert the watcher over them, and Thou art witness of all things. – [5:117]
Some people who wish to portray that Jesus died use these translations to prove their point. They will quote 3:55 by these translators and then claim that everyone translates the word as “die” except for most Muslim translators. From the translations it is apparent that while the translators have translated the word “tawaffa” as “die” in 3:55, they have translated the same word as “to take away” in 5:117. This clearly shows the lack of understanding these translators have for the word “tawaffa”. Hence to say that these translators are cent percent accurate would be a lie.
E.H Palmer translates it as “cause to die” for verse 3:55 and translates it completely differently for verse 5:117 as seen above. Shakir translates it as “cause to die” for verse 5:117 and translates it completely differently for verse 3:55. Also keep in mind that “terminate the period of your stay (on earth)” does not necessarily mean death and could mean ascension from earth. This same trait is seen in Rodwell’s translation. His lack of knowledge is seen in his translations of 3:55 where he translates it as “cause to die” and then in 5:117 he translates it as “thou hast taken me to Thyself.”
Verses where Tawaffa is not used for Death
It is He Who takes you back to Himself (yatawaffakum) at night, while knowing the things you perpetrate by day, and then wakes you up again, so that a specified term may be fulfilled. Then you will return to Him. Then He will inform you about what you did. – [6:60]
and
Allah takes back people’s selves (tawaffa) when their death arrives and those who have not yet died, while they are asleep. He keeps hold of those whose death has been decreed and sends the others back for a specified term. There are certainly Signs in that for people who reflect. – [39:42]
These verses are clear that Allah takes back the self of the one who is in sleep and returns it to those who are not yet to die. For those who die, their self is returned. So it can be said that the phrase “take your souls by night” (6:60) means to cause you to sleep just as the phrase “yab athukum” (to revive or quicken you or, as translated, to be raised) is used to refer to us waking up from sleep.
Explanation of Tawaffa
Tawaffa originally means to “take”.
Example: “tawaffaytu min fulanin ma liya `alayhi” this is when one would say: “I have taken back my debt from so and so”
In the Quran it is seen as to take in death or in sleep. This proves that tawaffa does not mean death only. Tawaffa from 6:60 can also be said to mean “to cause one to sleep”.
I have tried to explain this in the simplest terms possible and it is seen that to take (tawaffa) can mean death or to cause to sleep etc. This I have done by omitting all the interpretations of various scholars and sticking strictly to the word itself and its meaning and how it is used in the Quran in different places because Submitters (followers of Rashad Khalifa) and Qadianis or Ahmadis (followers of Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani) wish to ignore the hadith, the former ignores every one of it while the latter ignores those that prove their cult to be false.
One might question, ‘why should tawaffa mean to sleep in the case of Jesus?’ In other words ‘why should there be sleep before ascension?’ To try to explain it in modern scientific terms, it is known that the higher a man goes, the harder it gets to breathe. Therefore if Jesus(as) was taken up while awake, that would have been difficult for him. However while in a state of deep sleep, the ascension would be much easier for him.
When Talking about other Prophets what does the Quran use?
The Quran speaks about the death of other prophets as well but it generally uses the terms “mawta” or “qataluhu” or their derivatives. Below are some examples:
“He Who will cause me to die (yumeetunee), then give me life.” – [26: 81]
“…when he (Joseph) died (halaka), you said: “God will never send another Messenger after him.” – [40:34]
“We did not give any human being before you immortality (khuld). And if you die (mitta), will they then be immortal?” – [21:34]
“Or were you present when death (mawt)came to Jacob?” – [2:133]
Then when We decreed that he (Solomon) should die (mawt), nothing divulged his death (mawtihi) to them except the worm that ate his staff. – [34:14]
“So naught was the answer of (Abraham’s) people except that they said: ‘Kill (uqtuloohu) him or burn him.’ But Allah did save him from the Fire. Verily in this are Signs for people who believe.” – [29:24]
But Jesus(as) said Salah and Zakat is Compulsory for him as long as He Lives
“And He hath made me blessed wheresoever I be, and hath enjoined on me Prayer and Charity as long as I live.” – [19:31]
There is no evidence that in the Heavens, no one would worship Allah(swt). The rules of worship could or could not change. That depends on what Allah(swt) has planned for us there. Hence yes Jesus(as) would be worshipping Allah(swt).
The only thing that anyone else can think to pounce at is Zakat. For this one will have to know the rules of Zakat. Zakat has some rules to it. I will explain them in context to this verse.
When Jesus(as) spoke these words he was a baby in the cradle. Does this mean that he was giving out Zakat while he was a baby? He was alive as a baby as well but the condition for Zakat did not apply to him while he was a baby so naturally he was not giving any. When he grew up then the condition applied to him.
Now who does one give Zakat to? Surely you don’t give it to a king. You have to give it to poor people. Zakat can only be given to the people who qualify as being the ones who can receive Zakat. Other than them you cannot give Zakat to anyone else.
E.g. When Jesus(as) will return, there will come a time when wealth will be so abundant that there would not be a single person whom one can give Zakat to. At such a point when you cannot give Zakat then naturally you do not give it. This does not mean that you are defying the laws of God, because the moment you see someone who is poor and needy, you have to give Zakat.
Similarly because there are no “poor people” in Heaven so Zakat is not applicable on Jesus(as). Surely once he returns then it will be applicable automatically provided there are people who qualify as being the ones to receive Zakat. Hence Zakat though applicable, is suspended till conditions prevail in which Zakat is applicable.
Consulting Tafseer Ibn Kathir
Below is the excerpt from the tafseer of
3:55 by Ibn Kathir:
Allah said,
(I will take you and raise you to Myself) while you are asleep. Allah said in a similar Ayat,
(It is He Who takes your souls by night (when you are asleep).) (6:60), and,
(It is Allah Who takes away the souls at the time of their death, and those that die not during their sleep.) (39:42).
Evidence for the Return of Jesus(as)
And (Jesus) shall be a Sign (for the coming of) the Hour (of Judgment): therefore have no doubt about the (Hour), but follow ye Me: this is a Straight Way. – [43:61]
Narated By Abu Huraira: Allah’s Apostle said, “By Him in Whose Hands my soul is, son of Mary (Jesus) will shortly descend amongst you people (Muslims) as a just ruler and will break the Cross and kill the pig and abolish the Jizya (a tax taken from the non-Muslims, who are in the protection, of the Muslim government). Then there will be abundance of money and no-body will accept charitable gifts. – [Bukhari Vol.3, Book 34, #425] & [Muslim Book 1, #287; #289]
Narated By Abu Huraira:Allah’s Apostle said, “The Hour will not be established until the son of Mary (i.e. Jesus) descends amongst you as a just ruler, he will break the cross, kill the pigs, and abolish the Jizya tax. Money will be in abundance so that nobody will accept it (as charitable gifts). – [Bukhari Vol.3, Book 43, #656]
Narated By Abu Huraira: Allah’s Apostle said “How will you be when the son of Mary (i.e. Jesus) descends amongst you and he will judge people by the Law of the Quran and not by the law of Gospel – [Bukhari Vol.4, Book 55, #658] & [Muslim Book 1, #290; #291]
Jabir b. ‘Abdullah reported: I heard the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) say: A section of my people will not cease fighting for the Truth and will prevail till the Day of Resurrection. He said: Jesus son of Mary would then descend and their (Muslims’) commander would invite him to come and lead them in prayer, but he would say: No, some amongst you are commanders over some (amongst you). This is the honor from Allah for this Ummah. – [Muslim Book 1, #293]
Conclusion
Many people have tried to suggest that Jesus(as) died either after being brought down from the cross or before being arrested. These claims are made on the basis of lack of understanding the Arabic language and lack of knowledge of the sayings of Prophet Muhammad(saw). For those who reject the sayings of Prophet Muhammad(saw), e.g. Rashad Khalifa, this article proves that tawaffa does not only mean death and thus Jesus(as) did not die. For others I have provided many references from Sahih Hadith that Jesus(as) will descend among us. All the ahadith quoted are Sahih and have been declared as such by all Muslim scholars.
The Islamic belief has unlimited evidence to support it. Muslims believe that Jesus(as) was not crucified nor killed. He was taken up alive by Allah(swt) probably in the state of sleep, and will one day, towards the end of time, descend among us. Let me close this article with yet another verse from the Quran:
That they said (in boast), “We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah”;- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-
Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise. – [Quran 4:157-8]
Sirajul Haq Khan said
Imam Bukhari has named a Bab (Chapter)–Babo Tawaffiyo Rasool-ullahi Sallallaho Alaihi Wa Sallam, in which the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of God be on him) has connoted the meaning of Hazrat Jesus’AS Tawaffee as that of his own Tawaffee. The Holy ProphetSAW said:
“On the day of Qiyamat some people of my Ummat would be taken towards Hell. Then I shall say, `O my Lord! these are my companions’, Then it would be said! `thou don’t know what they innovated after thee’. Then, I shall say as the righteous servant said: `I was a witness over them as long as I remained among them, but since Thou didst cause me to die, Thou hast been the Watcher over them.’” (Bukhari Kitabul Tafseer, Vol. 3, p. 79, Vol. II, p. 159)
Ebrahim Saifuddin said
@Sirajul Haq Khan
Ah yes a hadith used by Qadianis a lot to prove their point. This hadith has been translated as “caused me to die” but the Arabic phrase used is the same as in the Quran. However in the case of the Prophet(saw) it means how it is translated but in the case of Jesus(as) it does not mean that and it is proven by 4:158. Your interpretation of the Quran to mean “caused to die” is inconsistent with 4:158 and also the numerous Sahih Hadith which prove that the Quran does not say regarding Jesus(as) that he died and neither did the Prophet(saw) understand nor teach that interpretation. Check the numerous evidence in the article.
Sirajul Haq Khan said
Actually you have missed the point.
The fact is ot that we take the term in the hadith to mean one thing and the usage in the verse to mean another. the pertinent point is that in the hadith, the Prophet is clearly talking about a time when he will necessarily have died – because he says “On the day of Qiyamah…” obviously on the day of Qiyamah the Prophet will have died – or won’t he??!!
We take this to mean that as the Prophet (saw) is saying that on the day of Qiyamah (i.e. after his (saw) own death), I will say “…falamma tawaffaitani…” then it has to mean ’since you caused me to die’ and not anything else – because he is using it temporally at a time when he (saw) himself will have passed away because his is clearly narating this hadith while he is alive, but then says “on the day of Qiyamah”, talking about a future event – when he (saw) will be raised up on the day of Qiyamah like the rest of us, and will say,
“…Then I shall say, `O my Lord! these are my companions’, Then it would be said! `thou don’t know what they innovated after thee’. Then, I shall say as the righteous servant said: `I was a witness over them as long as I remained among them, but since Thou didst cause me to die, Thou hast been the Watcher over them.’” (Bukhari Kitabul Tafseer, Vol. 3, p. 79, Vol. II, p. 159)
These are exactly the same verses in the qur’an that sayyidna Isa (as) says…thus if the prophet is using these words in a hadith on the day of Qiyamah (when he will surely have died and then be raised up) then why do we not interpret the Qur’anic verse and refer to ‘Isa (as)’s words “falamma tawaffaitani” as being ‘when you caused me to die”?
Teh point is that the Qur’anic words and terms are undoubtedly better unerstood by the prophet (saw) than any lexicologist or any of us…so why do we not translate the terms as per his (saw)’s usage??!! In fact in the usul al-tafseer, alongside jahiliyya poetry and pre-islamic arabic usage, the prophet (saw)’s usage is definitely considered and accorded much weight to…Rightly so!!
Wassalaam
Siraj
Ebrahim Saifuddin said
@Sirajul Haq Khan
I think I already mentioned that it is the exact phrase from the Quran so you do not have to be repititive about it. And it is you who has missed the entire point of the article. There is an analysis of the word “waffa” which means death and to take. And this same word can also mean death but can also mean “to take”. So how do we know what the Quran means when referring to Isa(as). That we can see from 4:158 as well as numerous ahadith.
And yes Quran is best understood by the Prophet(saw) and it is the Prophet(saw) who has narrated so many times that Isa(as) will return in clear terms. So then you, whether qadiani or not, should not reject those ahadith and interpret in light of all the evidence rather than isolating one hadith.
To reiterate the word wafa can be used for both death and to take. The phrase of the Quran can be used in both ways as well. Hence we look other places in the Quran and Hadith and derive the meaning of it in that particular verse.
Sirajul Haq Khan said
I agree with the majority of your article but my point is that The prophet was using the verse ‘falamma tawaffaitani’ fully cogniscant of the fact that it found mention in the Qur’an – as he specifically mentions, “I shall say as the righteous servant said: `I was a witness over them as long as I remained among them, but since Thou didst cause me to die, Thou hast been the Watcher over them.’”
He knew this verse had already been mentioned in the Qur’an and this hadith clarifies the meaninf of ‘falamma tawafaitani’ – meaning when you caused me to die – because it cannot be interpreted in the hadith as meaning ‘when you took me up’ as we know that the prophet was not taken up in that sense’.
However, none of the other ahadith relating to the return of ‘Isa mention ‘tawaffaitani’ – I don’t deny that the return of Isa is a truth – just that it won’t be the same ‘Isa that lived 2000 years ago – purely as he died a natural death, according to around 23 verses of the Qur’an which allude to the meaning of ‘tawaffa’ being death where Allah is the doer (Faa’il) of the verb and the act of ‘tawaffa’ is being done to ‘Isa (as) (Maf’ul), the object to which the verb is applied.
This has also (recently) been accepted by many contemporary scholars (as well as the numerous classical mufassireen) including the late Muhammad Asad, and a renowned authority of tafsir and qur’anic exegesis, Shaykh Muhammad al-Ghazali (Al-Azhari), in his a thematic commentary of the Qur’an (http://kitaabun.com/shopping3/product_info.php?products_id=703 ), (who died recently) who wrote in his book that he also, now after much thought, accepts that jesus died a naturel death – but that this does not mean that Allah cannot bring him back to life for the nuzul al-masih.
It’s really quite clear.
Peace be upon thos who follow the guidance.
Ebrahim Saifuddin said
@Sirajul Haq Khan
Okay I think you are missing the entire point here. “falamma tawaffaitani” has two connotations. One refers to death and the other refers to “taking away”. Now it is the translator who has translated it as “caused me to die” in the hadith. Keep that in mind.
If we translate it as “took me away” in the hadith even then the translation would be accurate because Allah(swt) took the prophet(saw) away.
Allah(swt) can take any person away either via death or without death. Hence that phrase “falamma tawaffaitani” can mean anything of these. It means the taking away which can be in death or also in sleep as seen in the Quran where Allah is the doer and man is the one to whom it is being done.
So to use the phrase by the Prophet only means that Allah(swt) took him away and as there was no live ascension for the Prophet(saw) therefore it is but obvious that the taking away was via death.
However in the case of Isa(as) there was no death and thus “falamma tawaffaitani” refers to taking away without death like e.g. in sleep which is supported by the Quran in 4:158 and authentic Ahadith.
It is not surprising that you would quote Muhammad Asad whose translation is not considered most authentic among the Muslims. However we can play this game back and forth regarding Translations and Tafsirs by later scholars as well. For example check out the tafsir of Muhammad A’ashiq Ilahi Madni (who died recently) where he explains this issue and refutes any claim or interpretation that is similar to that of Qadianis [http://islamicbookstore.com/b8336.html]. So if you want to play this game then we can surely do it back and forth but I seriously do not have that kind of time.
Sirajul Haq Khan said
“Okay I think you are missing the entire point here. “falamma tawaffaitani” has two connotations. One refers to death and the other refers to “taking away”. Now it is the translator who has translated it as “caused me to die” in the hadith. Keep that in mind.”
I don’t deny that ‘falamma tawaffaitani’ CAN mean ‘taking away’ – but even you cannot deny that in the hadith when the Prophet (saw) is saying falamma tawaffaitani – it has to mean ’caused me to die’ because (as per the hadith) the Prophet is told ‘You do not know what they did after you’ – that clearly denotes that ‘after you died then you do not know what they did after you’ – The prophet (saw) was not taken up in any other way than in death – he was only ‘taken’ by causing him to die – thus we append the same for ‘Isa.
Wassalaam ala man ittaba’al hudaa..
Ebrahim Saifuddin said
@Sirajul Haq Khan
Deny? I am the one who mentions in the article the meanings of “Waffa” so why would I deny that one of its meanings is “to take via death”?!
Even as per the hadith the accurate translation is not “caused to die” but “to take via death”. And I already mentioned that the Prophet(saw) was not taken back any other way. You really have to stop repeating what I say.
But if the Prophet(saw) was not taken back any other way does that mean that now Isa(as) was not taken back any other way as well? Not at all. Isa(as) according to the Quran also has a different birth. The Quran says that Isa(as) is like Adam(as). So does that mean Isa(as) had no mother as well? No!
Similarly if the Prophet(saw) used the same phrase to mean “to take via death” then there is no hard and fast rule that this has to apply to Isa(as) as well. To learn what the phrase means for Isa(as) we turn to other places in the Quran and the Hadith and then come to a conclusion that Isa(as) was taken up without death and will return towards the End of Time.
Sirajul Haq Khan said
Your conclusion is based on inference and in ignorance of teh prophet’s usage of the terms and thier meanings.
‘Isa’s being like Adam is according to other manifestations which they both share – and you are well versed enough to know these – you really have to stop being so sarcastic.
And what is the differnce between “caused to die” and “to take via death”??? There is no difference – you are implying a difference between the two.
Ebrahim Saifuddin said
@Sirajul Haq Khan
huh? Are you feeling okay??
Did I say there is a difference? I said the accurate translation is “to take via death”. This shows that Allah(swt) can also take by some other means. This is again proved by the Quran itself.
Your conclusion is based on the perversified interpretations of qadianis. You are rejecting part of the Quran and the hadith in order to advocate for your interpretation. I’d say you are playing with fire.
Sirajul Haq Khan said
ok. We’ll leave it at that then.
Ebrahim Saifuddin said
@Sirajul Haq Khan
Sure.
No name said
What do you say about these verses of quran
56. Also mention in the Book the case of Idris: He was a man of truth (and sincerity), (and) a
prophet:
57. And We raised him to a lofty station. (Abdullah Yousuf Ali)
Allah has used word “Warafaana” instead of “tawaffa”. Why did Allah used the word of taking life while sleep for Jesus. Why He did not used the word same He used for Idris (AS). If he was taken up alive without the confusion of word “tawaffa”. Don’t you think his chances of coming back into this world are more than Jesus.
Please keep your answer only with reference to Quran.
Ebrahim Saifuddin said
@No Name
Firstly your knowledge about the Quran is quite deficient. Allah(swt) has used both “tawaffa” and “rafa” for Jesus(as). Read 4:158
And why do you want to deal with the Quran only? Because the Qadiani/Rashad reject the hadith? Islam is derived from Quran and Hadith. So next time you want to have a dialogue with a Muslim, never tell them to omit the hadith.
No name said
Do you believe in Quran?
Allah has revealed there the following
[17:46] We place shields around their minds, to prevent them from understanding it, and deafness in their
ears. And when you preach your Lord, using the Quran alone, they run away in aversion.
Notice that arabic word “Quran-i-wahdahu” there.
Why you run away while reference of Quran is mentioned to you.
Is Allah not sufficient to you
6:114. Say: “Shall I seek for judge other than Allah. – when He it is Who hath sent unto you the
Book, explained in detail.” They know full well, to whom We have given the Book, that it
hath been sent down from thy Lord in truth. Never be then of those who doubt.
When quran is fully detailed in accordance with Allah, why do you want another source of judge/Law of authenticity of quran. Allah has no shortage of words to explain anything he wanted to explain to the humankind. See this word and think again
18:109. Say: “If the ocean were ink (wherewith to write out) the words of my Lord, sooner would
the ocean be exhausted than would the words of my Lord, even if we added another ocean like it, for its aid.”
So think and think again that you may be saved.
No name said
You haven’t given me any answer?
Ebrahim Saifuddin said
@ No Name
Interestingly enough I never received a notification regarding you comment dated “June 25th”. Had I received I would have shown you then how ridiculous you look when you are given evidence FROM the Quran and then you run off talking about something that has nothing to do with the topic.
You asked for a reference and I gave it to you. That was your evidence. Now apply all these verses on yourself because you are the one who is rejecting that which is clear because you are arrogant.
I gave what you were looking for but its sad that you still deny the truth about Jesus(as) because of your arrogance. Its a shame really.
Regarding Hadith you should watch my video titled:
The Hadith: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdoigna-2XI
It is also here on this blog but I cant find the link so watch it on youtube.
No name said
You are too provcative.
If apply these all verses then tell me where God has said Jesus (as) shall return.
I have simply asked you question regarding Idris (as). If same words are used for both prophets with the exception of “tawaffa” which is not used for Idris. Then logically chances to come back in this world for Idris (as) is more than Jesus (as).
I shall not watch your video regarding Hadith on youtube because I am more than satisfied with Allah’ Hadith which is very much clear with following arabic Verses in the Quran:-
[7:185] Have they not looked at the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all the things GOD has created?
Does it ever occur to them that the end of their life may be near? Which Hadith, beside this, do they believe
in?
[12:111] In their history, there is a lesson for those who possess intelligence. This is not fabricated Hadith; this confirms all previous scriptures, provides the details of everything, and is a beacon and mercy for those who believe.
[31:6] Among the people, there are those who uphold baseless Hadith, and thus divert others from the path of GOD without knowledge, and take it in vain. These have incurred a shameful retribution.
[39:23] GOD has revealed herein the best Hadith; a book that is consistent, and points out both ways. The skins of those who reverence their Lord cringe therefrom, then their skins and their hearts soften up for GOD’s message. Such is GOD’s guidance; He bestows it upon whoever wills. As for those sent astray by GOD, nothing
can guide them.
[45:6] These are GOD’s revelations that we recite to you truthfully. In which Hadith other than GOD and His revelations do they believe?
[52:34] Let them produce a Hadith like this, if they are truthful.
[68:44] Therefore, let Me deal with those who reject this Hadith; we will lead them on whence they never perceive.
[77:50] Which Hadith, other than this, do they uphold?
If you are not satisfied with these verses, please read this and think once again. Allah has given you another chance for salvation:
[6:112] We have permitted the enemies of every prophet – human and jinn devils – to inspire in each other fancy words, in order to deceive. Had your Lord willed, they would not have done it. You shall disregard them and their fabrications.
Ebrahim Saifuddin said
@No Name
Okay now you are arguing for the sake of argument. You did not read the article because if you had then you would have not asked a silly question like “Where in the Quran does it say Jesus will return”. Read the article there and you will find the answer to your question in it.
The fact there “tawaffa” is not coupled with “rafaa” in the case of idrees it makes it less likely for Idrees’ case to be similar to Jesus. Do you have no knowledge of the Quran?
You do not want to watch the hadith video because you know your false concepts will be shattered and thus your arrogance prevents you to watch it.
Oh and it is apparent that you do not even know the difference between Hadith from Allah and Hadith of Rasul. Hadith of Rasul is based on Hadith from Allah by direct commands from Allah. These are two types which do not overlap. I would suggest that instead of reading websites and copy/pasting information you should study the Quran more.
So do not be arrogant and read the Quran and InshaAllah Allah(Swt) will open your eyes if you are sincere.
Ebrahim Saifuddin said
@No Name
You have now lied. Remarkable work! Quote me where I said that everyone for whom Tawaffa is used will return? You have done nothing but lied. Shame on you.
You asked for evidence first – I gave it to you – You ignored it because of your arrogance.
Then you asked for another evidence – I gave it to you – You ignored it AGAIN because of your arrogance.
You run around in circles because of the ignorance and arrogance which you exhibit.
Does your interpretation of the Quran teach you to lie about people??
Next time dont lie regarding what I state otherwise I will have to block you for Spam. You are doing nothing but spamming here.
No name said
You are doing unjustice in deleting my comments and posting your answers to it.
If you don’t want to answer tell me.
I will leave with a decent proposal to you to close this website, if you running away like this
Ebrahim Saifuddin said
@No Name
If you will plagiarize and lie about what I say then yes it will be deleted. You obviously have not read the article and hence you lie about what I have stated. If you will keep up with your lies and plagiarism of what other people write then your comments will be deleted. Plagiarism is a crime in case you did not know.
So stop running like a coward by avoiding all the evidence I give you. When you are confronted with evidence you completely ignore it and run onto something that has nothing to do with the topic being discussed. Why do you comment here is what I wonder when you are insincere to yourself!
Piece of advice: Stop plagiarism and Stop lying about what I say. Even when a comment is deleted, it is appropriately responded to and the above is the answer to your comment where you were running around in circles and started lying about what I had to say and also started plagiarising.
Khan said
I have one simple question. I agree to what you have said that Jesus was lifted by Allah and will return.
Was he lifted in flesh & blood? If not then what is difference between lifting of soul and dieing?
And where in Quran it says he’ll come back?
AHMED KARIM said
Ass salaamu alaykum brother. Your discussions are very informative Alhumdulillah.
I was wondering whether you could help me. I am debating with a Qadiyani on YOUtube.He claims that there is a Hadith in Kanze-Ummal which states that Isa alyhis salaam passed away at the age of 120. He even says that this is narrated by Fatima Radiyallahu Anha.
I was wodering whether you knew anything about this.
Was salaam
Ahmed Karim